<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post1278193834198836151..comments</id><updated>2008-09-02T08:27:20.723-04:00</updated><category term='Lightning Talks'/><category term='test blogs'/><category term='Silliness'/><category term='Teamwork'/><category term='process'/><category term='bugs'/><category term='STARwest'/><category term='Podcast'/><category term='Data Warehouse Testing'/><category term='STPCon'/><category term='software testing career'/><category term='language'/><category term='Presentations'/><category term='Stareast'/><category term='Test This'/><category term='testing metaphor'/><category term='Managing Testing'/><category term='heuristics'/><category term='CAST'/><category term='metrics'/><category term='Kanban'/><category term='Tools'/><category term='Don&apos;t Test It'/><category term='automation'/><category term='writing tests'/><category term='Testing Related Ideas'/><category term='questions'/><title type='text'>Comments on Test This Blog - Eric Jacobson's Software Testing Blog: Are Your Bug Lists Public?</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/feeds/1278193834198836151/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html'/><author><name>Eric Jacobson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08216361684596485033</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_COPM94ChagE/Sc6u2w2bOOI/AAAAAAAADa8/pRZu-GjkVyQ/S220/Copy+of+coasters2+010-1.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>6</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1143332100879504547</id><published>2008-09-02T05:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-02T05:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Eric, I posted a link to this post on sqaforums: h...</title><content type='html'>Eric, I posted a link to this post on sqaforums: http://www.sqaforums.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;amp;Number=510106&amp;amp;an=0&amp;amp;page=0#Post510106&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thought you might be interested in reading the responses.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/1143332100879504547'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/1143332100879504547'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html?showComment=1220346660000#c1143332100879504547' title=''/><author><name>Tony Bruce</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14044205740382054059</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='10766612932366107785'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1278193834198836151' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/posts/default/1278193834198836151' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1535722600'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-3725782862478946350</id><published>2008-08-21T20:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T20:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Inder P Singh,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great question.  It forces u...</title><content type='html'>Inder P Singh,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Great question.  It forces us to think about a variety of software types (e.g., shrink-wrap vs. custom).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think the bug list should be available to the general public whether they have a login or not.  Again, I believe it shows more integrity for the app to make the bug list public, even in an extreme case where there may be 1000 open bugs.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Look, if the stakeholders decide to go live with 1000 bugs, they obviously assume there is enough working functionality to provide value to someone who matters.  The quality of the software will speak for itself.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think as years go by, more users will agree with me.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/3725782862478946350'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/3725782862478946350'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html?showComment=1219363920000#c3725782862478946350' title=''/><author><name>Eric Jacobson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08216361684596485033</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2089552211_bf914d055d_o.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1278193834198836151' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/posts/default/1278193834198836151' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-172087392'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-6178600354192974809</id><published>2008-08-21T05:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T05:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Are you advocating the bug lists be made available...</title><content type='html'>Are you advocating the bug lists be made available to only the users of the application or the public (whether or not a member of the public is a user of the application)? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think that once Development and Testing are finished with their work and the application has been deployed/ distributed to the users, selected known bugs can be provided for viewing by the users. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Making all known bugs visible to each user might de-motivate a user (especially if the number of bugs is large). It can give rise to unrealistic expectations (a user might expect prompt resolution of any bug while being unaware of the constraints being faced by the development team).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/6178600354192974809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/6178600354192974809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html?showComment=1219310520000#c6178600354192974809' title=''/><author><name>Inder P Singh</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1278193834198836151' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/posts/default/1278193834198836151' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-201748929'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-8649095050168096069</id><published>2008-08-14T07:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-14T07:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I have to disagree with desertfox and Adam and agr...</title><content type='html'>I have to disagree with desertfox and Adam and agree with Eric.&lt;BR/&gt;I believe it's better for users to know that Dev are aware of the bugs and in turn working on resolving them.&lt;BR/&gt;Take for example the scenario that desertfox mentioned, if there are 1-200 low priority bugs then users are going to notice them and wonder why they weren't discovered by Dev/Test and this will cause mistrust and lose of confidence, if Dev is upfront and say 'Yes we are aware of these and they will get fixed and if you notice anything else please let us know and we'll sort those out too' it builds a good relationship.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for what Adam has mentioned surely a bug which could lead to a lawsuit is exactly what you need to let the world know about?!&lt;BR/&gt;Not letting users know is what would lead to the lawsuit.  If they are aware then the responsibility is with them.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/8649095050168096069'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/8649095050168096069'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html?showComment=1218713520000#c8649095050168096069' title=''/><author><name>Tony Bruce</name><uri>http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybruce</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1278193834198836151' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/posts/default/1278193834198836151' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1734150122'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1549315543035726300</id><published>2008-07-11T10:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-11T10:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Eric,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One reason for keeping bug lists priv...</title><content type='html'>Eric,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One reason for keeping bug lists private might be fear of litigation/lawsuit from end users? I'm not sure how the law works in respect to that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I also agree with what desertfox mentioned.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Adam</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/1549315543035726300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/1549315543035726300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html?showComment=1215786060000#c1549315543035726300' title=''/><author><name>Adam White</name><uri>www.adamkwhite.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1278193834198836151' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/posts/default/1278193834198836151' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1695521598'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-6245522352489088522</id><published>2008-07-02T14:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-02T14:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think our users aren't too bright, and would mis...</title><content type='html'>I think our users aren't too bright, and would mistake common bugs that can be fixed with an unstable product, if a product is indeed stable but we have 1-200 bugs that are mostly low priority, it sends the wrong message to our users.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/6245522352489088522'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/1278193834198836151/comments/default/6245522352489088522'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html?showComment=1215021840000#c6245522352489088522' title=''/><author><name>DesertFox</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.testthisblog.com/2008/06/are-your-bug-lists-public.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-1278193834198836151' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8951904624959546499/posts/default/1278193834198836151' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-224162136'/></entry></feed>
