tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post3614476105039764615..comments2024-02-22T05:36:59.121-05:00Comments on Test This Blog - Eric Jacobson's Software Testing Blog: Feeling Valuable Without Logging BugsEric Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08216361684596485033noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-21774602366494542092015-05-22T09:40:32.286-04:002015-05-22T09:40:32.286-04:00I'm realy new at software testings (actually i...I'm realy new at software testings (actually i found this blog while studying by myself)<br />But i am lucky enought to get into a company that make devs e testers work together, so we kinda get friends with each other in low time...<br />So when i test something that i don't see any bug i just give them a "happy report" ,i think it's nice to say something to them, everyone is happy to be praised sometime....and as friends it's nice to make someone happy =]<br />but it's somthing more like "hey, ur doing ur job to well....wanna make me lose mine?"Diego Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-19674598091767146362007-12-03T17:33:00.000-05:002007-12-03T17:33:00.000-05:00Meh.. don't feel bad. It's not like I ever commen...Meh.. don't feel bad. It's not like I ever commend you guys on anything for which I now feel bad also... even though I don't voice it I do truly appreciate what you guys do with helping to find holes in our code that we never thought of handling making the app more resilient in the process. It's truly insane some of the scenarios you guys think up. Insane in a good way in that I never thought off to do. <BR/><BR/>This is beginning to feel like Oprah where everyone is crying and hugging and sharing their emotions and crap after being reunited with their long lost 2nd cousin in law twice removed on the step daddy side. (and for the record I don't watch Oprah just so you know -- it's just an analogy)Me Myself and Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559791282641123001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-15083280403795998362007-12-03T16:43:00.000-05:002007-12-03T16:43:00.000-05:00Pros,I guess you nailed me on the whole compliment...Pros,<BR/><BR/>I guess you nailed me on the whole compliment-your-devs thing. I just looked through old emails and you're right. All I've ever done was complain. I guess all my praise has been going to the wrong devs, huh? Anyway, I'll try to make up for this in the future. I feel terrible.<BR/><BR/>Yes, reading dev code is a good idea. I did this at an old job where they were using classic ASP and I had no problem understanding it. I borrowed Alex's C# book last year but it's impossible to learn it unless you use it...and I haven't used it (except for those unit tests you helped me write). Perhaps you would enjoy a day of me looking over your shoulder saying "what's that?" as you code...Eric Jacobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08216361684596485033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-2406702316727042042007-12-03T10:25:00.000-05:002007-12-03T10:25:00.000-05:00"2) Another thing I tried was to verbally tell my ..."2) Another thing I tried was to verbally tell my devs said feature worked well. Certainly they appreciated the complement and I felt as if they would appreciate my efforts."<BR/><BR/>I don't ever get any accolades from you -- not that I go around everyday wishing for affirmation from you to compliment my mad coding skillz.<BR/><BR/>Also, I don't quite understand the logic as to why you're unhappy when stuff works. Wouldn't that add consoliation that the developer tried testing it before throwing the latest bits over the wall to you guys? Should I be writing more buggy code to make you "happy"? (As if I'm not already writing buggy code...)<BR/><BR/>It seems you guys mainly do black box testing. Another thing you could probably do if you really want to find a bug so that you feel more "valuable" is if you're bored you could try and read the code you're testing to see if you can spot a logic flaw. Sometimes reading through the code or at least glancing through it you can pick up some things that you wouldn't have thought to test otherwise. Although I do admit that reading through developer code can be difficult and not for the feint of heart. I have trouble reading other people's spaghetti code at times also.Me Myself and Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559791282641123001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8951904624959546499.post-38868291381725714182007-11-26T08:57:00.000-05:002007-11-26T08:57:00.000-05:00Of course there's always more, right? You could p...Of course there's always more, right? You could perf/load test them. You could inject some sad path logic into the tests -- doing things out of sequence; high order characters; cutting power in the middle of a process to see how the system recovers; etc.<BR/>But I agree, and it's another reason metrics can be really important. With that data over time and across the app, we can see what areas of the software have the most (or least) bugs and then we can concentrate on those areas with the most trouble -- and we'll have actual data (not just anecdotal "I *think* this area is buggy) to guide and support our decisions.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07298916960841993037noreply@blogger.com